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Post by felicity on Feb 25, 2020 19:34:44 GMT
An ethical question  I attended a workshop recently on making felted pictures using the photographs as reference. The most of students used their own pictures. I know that I will need a good quality professional picture of a specific National Park landscape as an inspiration for a themed felted picture I was invited to make and exhibit. The problem is that I do not have any suitable picture so that I'm going to purchase a picture I like at some place like shutterstock or alike. I usually do not make a copy of a reference picture just use it as a inspirational image. So the question is - should I include credits to an author of the picture? I'm not sure that the picture would be even recognisable |
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Post by lindsay on Feb 25, 2020 22:51:37 GMT
That’s an interesting question and I don’t know the answer.
However, I do sell photographic prints (physical, not on line) and if it was my photo I would expect you to credit me if you print or display in a public way my image or a recognisable form of it, but I wouldn’t expect a credit if you’d just used it as inspiration. On the other hand I wouldn’t object to a credit for inspiration. Shutterstock etc are professional sellers of online images and I’d guess have their own policies if you buy their images. If in doubt I think it’s better credit people than not but I often work from a range of online images (eg of a specific bird) and don’t reference them in the final felted piece.
Sorry that’s not a very clear reply!
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Post by Antje on Feb 26, 2020 8:30:58 GMT
Very interesting discussion.
My own thinking....
If the photo is of a popular landscape view then it is most likely that 100’s if not 1000’s of people will have photographed it from roughly the same angle, and in fact i could have travelled to that spot & photographed it myself. By choosing the final photo I would have simply chosen the clearest/most colourful etc from a variety of sources for my own interpretation. In this situation I don't feel a credit is due as I, like so many before me, could have taken that landscape shot.
However, if the photo was a one-off, very specific, almost still life arrangement, where the chances of other individuals capturing that shot are quite remote, then yes I would give a credit to the artist/photographer for the inspiration, if my work clearly replicated the photo in a recognisable way.
That said, if I simply used this photo as a springing point to create a non recognisable interpretation, then the final work is mine and inspiration will have come subliminally from other sources too (not just the photo), so no I wouldn't credit the photographer.
Galina, if you feel any way in doubt, particularly if you are going to sell your work, crediting another artist would certainly cover all your bases.
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Post by felicity on Feb 26, 2020 9:14:12 GMT
I'm listening Just want to stress - I'm going to buy the picture from the official source which implies commercial use. For example I'm allowed to print the image on commercial products and sell them. When you buy a t-short with some whimsical image on it it's very rare to see a name of artist on it as well. I do agree with both of you about the difference - is it a copy or just a trigger to your imagination? I have plenty of time to think about it, it's a next year exhibition... |
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Post by felicity on Feb 26, 2020 9:15:46 GMT
 To make a discussion more enjoyable this is a picture which started all the thinking...  |
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Post by Shepherdess on Feb 26, 2020 17:03:36 GMT
No picture. I agree if the picture is not recognizable as unique and you have also paid for its use then you don't have to credit the photographer. A famous landmark has probably been photographed thousands or millions of times in an almost identical way.
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Post by Pandagirl on Feb 26, 2020 17:51:28 GMT
I agree with Antje and Ann and since you’re purchasing it, I doubt the photographer would care. Is the picture copyrighted? And as you mentioned it will probably not be exact. I hope this helps, but I wouldn’t worry. I’ve used Monet and other artists pictures as inspiration.
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Post by lindsay on Feb 26, 2020 17:55:31 GMT
I'm listening Just want to stress - I'm going to buy the picture from the official source which implies commercial use. For example I'm allowed to print the image on commercial products and sell them. When you buy a t-short with some whimsical image on it it's very rare to see a name of artist on it as well. I do agree with both of you about the difference - is it a copy or just a trigger to your imagination? I have plenty of time to think about it, it's a next year exhibition... If you have the authority to reproduce it as it is without crediting the photographer then I definitely wouldn’t bother. |
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Post by felicity on Feb 26, 2020 20:47:23 GMT
Thank you all very much for your thoughts and considerations! I believe we agreed that if the picture was purchased officially for a commercial use and served just as an inspiration source I could ignore credit issue. Thanks for all support I always get from the forum!
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Post by lyn on Feb 26, 2020 23:07:11 GMT
It's beautiful Galina!
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Post by felicity on Feb 26, 2020 23:34:58 GMT
Thank you Lyn!
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Post by Shepherdess on Feb 27, 2020 12:13:39 GMT
I don't see the picture or the link. can everyone else see a picture?
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Post by felicity on Feb 27, 2020 12:49:59 GMT
I can see it...
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Post by Shepherdess on Feb 27, 2020 13:21:41 GMT
Hmm I guess it's my turn for the forum to play tricks on. It's just a blank for me, not even the little picture to say there should be a picture there.
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Post by felicity on Feb 27, 2020 13:29:58 GMT
Sorry about that! I added it to the same post again, now I can see two the same, hope you can see at least one |
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I attended a workshop recently on making felted pictures using the photographs as reference. The most of students used their own pictures. I know that I will need a good quality professional picture of a specific National Park landscape as an inspiration for a themed felted picture I was invited to make and exhibit. The problem is that I do not have any suitable picture so that I'm going to purchase a picture I like at some place like shutterstock or alike. I usually do not make a copy of a reference picture just use it as a inspirational image. So the question is - should I include credits to an author of the picture? I'm not sure that the picture would be even recognisable 
