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Post by tracey on Apr 7, 2017 12:28:19 GMT
I am interested in the different shaping of vessels/pods. I am trying to figure out if using a balloon/bladder of a ball, will always result in a significantly different shape to using a flat resist, or is it in the moulding?
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Post by lyn on Apr 7, 2017 13:17:59 GMT
I think (perhaps wrongly) that making a vessel/pod over a balloon/bladder will just result in a 'round' shape (however, you don't have to worry about smoothing out the bit where the fibres wrap around the resist!) Please correct me if there's something I'm unaware of about the ball/bladder method. If I want to make any shape, then I find that a flat resist is ideal. For example: Horses for courses eh?
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Post by MTRuth on Apr 7, 2017 13:38:19 GMT
I agree with Lyn. Shaping does make a difference and you can make different vases from the same shaped resist. Here's the shape of the covered resist before felting. I made two this shape. Here is the first one. I stitched long seams up the long edges so it is tall and narrow. Here is the second one, I made horizontal folds to shorten it down and then added the yarn around it. The problem with doing this with a circle is that you're a bit limited with the possible shapes. You can make folds in it but it won't give you that many different shapes. I think the flat resist that is cut in different ways will give you many more options.
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Post by tracey on Apr 7, 2017 13:43:11 GMT
Thanks Lyn. I love the colour and the shape of the second vessel, but please tell me what I'm not getting here, how is the base shaped on that one, you cannot get your hands in to work it, wouldn't that be worked over a vase?
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Post by tracey on Apr 7, 2017 13:45:38 GMT
Thanks Ruth, I thought shaping the resist different ways would work.
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Post by lyn on Apr 7, 2017 13:49:29 GMT
Thanks Lyn. I love the colour and the shape of the second vessel, but please tell me what I'm not getting here, how is the base shaped on that one, you cannot get your hands in to work it, wouldn't that be worked over a vase? The tall one doesn't have a 'bottom' - it was formed over a resist open at both ends. The resist was measured and designed to make a felt cover for a particular (damaged) four-sided glass vase and it just slips on from the top. Hides the damage and enhances the shape! (The inside was worked using rolled up bubble wrap.)
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Post by tracey on Apr 7, 2017 13:53:44 GMT
Excellent thanks, that explains a lot! I was tempted with the balloon method but maybe you get more control with a resist, experimentation time!
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Post by tracey on Apr 7, 2017 19:17:34 GMT
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Post by lyn on Apr 7, 2017 22:23:41 GMT
I think I'd try a closed resist this shape (see link below). When the felt was ready, I'd cut the resist out by cutting across the very top, then cut the 'fingers' from the top to the point shown by the pencil line. I would do a trial pod then adjust my pattern until I was satisfied with the shape. pattern
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Post by lyn on Apr 8, 2017 0:11:22 GMT
I think I'd try a closed resist this shape (see link below). When the felt was ready, I'd cut the resist out by cutting across the very top, then cut the 'fingers' from the top to the point shown by the pencil line. I would do a trial pod then adjust my pattern until I was satisfied with the shape. pattern SCRUB ALL THE ABOVE. I've just done an experiment and the pattern would give you an interesting pod but it wouldn't be such a rounded shape as the photo of the pod on dropbox. I reckon, looking at it again, that a larger version of my circular pod resist might work. Check out the shape in the photo below and imagine a small hole in the centre top from which the 'fingers' could then be cut right back to just above the widest part of the pod. A larger circular resist than in the tutorial would enable a lot of cuts to make 'fingers'.
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Post by lyn on Apr 8, 2017 0:19:38 GMT
Sorry to anyone reading the above while I was amending it! I think I've got it right now.
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Post by tracey on Apr 8, 2017 5:20:58 GMT
Thank you so much for doing the experiment/calculations for me Lyn, much appreciated! I understand what you mean. I will be experimenting first in a colour I don't really need.
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Post by lyn on Apr 8, 2017 7:41:36 GMT
Forgot to say, the bigger the circular resist the more layers of fibre needed ... and the fulling will make your arms drop off.
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Post by tracey on Apr 8, 2017 16:31:00 GMT
Forgot to say, the bigger the circular resist the more layers of fibre needed ... and the fulling will make your arms drop off. I think the resist for my seashore pod was about 19" diameter. I drew around a dinner plate first and thought no, too small, so used a huge fruit bowl as a guide instead! I read on a blog of a wet felter who had to have a long break due to repetitive strain injury due to all the rolling!!
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Post by zed on Apr 9, 2017 11:45:47 GMT
I've had rounder/more spherical vessels from using your vessel tutorial with flat, circular resist, Lyn, than using a ball bladder Pretty much all my ball bladder ones were more cyclindrical. I agree about the resist shape for the pod Tracey linked to
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