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Post by josiebrat on Mar 18, 2014 0:11:55 GMT
Ann- no, the wool is on the one side of the garments only. I did have a rush effect on the backside, but pressed some of this out in some of my scarves. When you say China silk are you referring to Hobatai which is also known by this name? Most of the silk I've ordered from Dharma is Hobatai in 8mm. For the dyed quality I'm using I don't remember if it's Hobatai or chiffon.
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Post by Frances on Mar 18, 2014 0:48:36 GMT
They are both so pretty! I will try prefelts for a more geometric look - thanks for sharing.
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Post by Pandagirl on Mar 18, 2014 0:53:51 GMT
Josie, if you use the 5mm china silk/habatoi I believe y'ou'll get more ruching. It's a looser weave. I just ordered some firm .dharma and will be dying it soon for a class. I'll post pics when I felt with it.
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Post by josiebrat on Mar 18, 2014 0:59:59 GMT
thanks Marilyn, I will be ordering some 5mm to try. This will also be a better weight for Spring.
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Post by Shepherdess on Mar 18, 2014 17:34:13 GMT
Yes china silk and habotai are the same . it is called pongee and paj sometimes too.
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Post by carole aka craftywoman on Mar 19, 2014 7:48:08 GMT
I am so inspired by all of your lovely work with nuno felting, I just have to check out Dharma, up until now I haven't had a clue what fabric to order, thank you everyone for sharing all this invaluable information :-)
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Post by zed on Mar 19, 2014 9:43:53 GMT
I missed where you said you used chiffon, Ann's right, you won't really get any ruching if you cover the whole piece with wool. You only really get it with very small amounts or strategically placed wool. I used chiffon on a bag yesterday and it completely sunk in.
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Post by luvswool and dyestuff on Mar 19, 2014 12:56:07 GMT
Zed, that was one of the mistakes I made early on with nuno-felting on silk chiffon. My thought at the time was that using wool on both sides would produce better felting--which it did! But on the same hand, there was very little ruching. Later attempts with less wool produced more ruching, but I'm still not where I would like to be with ruching effects. Better fulling may help.
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Post by zed on Mar 20, 2014 9:38:09 GMT
I did use the chiffon just to prevent piling on the back of the bag, and though I knew it would sink in, I was surprised that it is almost invisible!
It's a shame silk isn't cheaper to do lots of experiments to get the look you want. I have found that synthetic chiffon is every bit as good as the silk chiffon I have. Which makes me wonder now, why I didn't use some of that for the back of the bag!
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Post by josiebrat on Mar 25, 2014 11:55:10 GMT
I just checked the dyed silks I have and most were marked chiffon. I will pay more attention to this in the future, as it may have a bearing on my shrinkage. I also noticed some of my old tickets marked as gauze. Has anyone used gauze, and is shrinkage different? I finally made a scarf for myself last week with Los of embellishments. I did a lot of fulling and in the end it rushed up a lot, but since I wanted a more smooth finish I lost some of it in ironing. I did leave some small areas open without wool but hard to see in finished product. I will have to leave more open next time.
By the way how do you add holes to your nuno product. I see this in some work, but not sure how I should do it. Should I cut holes through wool/silk during fulling stage?
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Post by josiebrat on Mar 25, 2014 12:31:22 GMT
I forgot to include a photo of my new scarf. Attachments:
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Post by Pandagirl on Mar 25, 2014 13:33:20 GMT
Josie, the scarf is gorgeous. I love the colors. It looks like you used some of the sparkly stuff that I did on my pink scarf. Was your sparkly a bit scratchy to start with? Mine was, but softened up after felting and fulling. Silk gauze is a looser weave so there will be more shrinkage. I like using gauze since the wool migrates quicker. However, it is not as shiny as chiffon. But I've discovered after felting neither really keeps a shine anyway. I haven't made holes in any of my projects other than for revealing objects felted in the wool. I know what you're talking about, I'm sure someone else had made those holes. In fact, perhaps it was Halay who did scarf like that.
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Post by MTRuth on Mar 25, 2014 15:56:25 GMT
I have done a scarf with holes but it wasn't nuno. I cut the holes at the prefelt stage. I think that gauze and chiffon are about the same in regards to ruching but the gauze does shrink a lot.
Another lovely scarf!
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Post by josiebrat on Mar 25, 2014 16:28:21 GMT
Marilyn, thanks and yes I did use a lot of sparkly ribbons, and some other trims I have on hand. I really did not pay attention to how scratchy it was up front, but I know it did not bother me when I had it on. Since I have been using lots of wools on my scarves I guess I have not noticed the shine much. There is one type of silk I have on hand that has more shine than others but not sure what it is. As you said, it does not matter much as you lose during the felting process. I will be taking an online class from Felt Artist Fiona Duthie in about 2 weeks, so perhaps we will learn about holes. It's a surface interest workshop.
Is Haley a member? If yes, perhaps she will read this and offer some tips on making holes. thanks again.. great to have all the feedback.
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Post by Pandagirl on Mar 25, 2014 16:40:11 GMT
Josie, there will be about six or seven of us if rom the forum n Fiona's class! It should be a lot of fun. I'm looking forward to trying some new techniques. Yes, Halay is a member.
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