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Post by caterina on Dec 31, 2021 15:31:51 GMT
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Post by Ann @ frabjous fabrica on Dec 31, 2021 15:54:36 GMT
These are interesting Caterina, I can really "see" something in the first one. They are both definitely the type of work that the viewer can keep going back to and find something they missed before. This is the type of abstract painting that I go for. I can't "see" anything in the type that look as if a 2 year old or an angry chimpanzee was the artist. I don't understand those at all. Did you use the sander with these? I am still tossing up whether to get myself one. I know what you mean about things vanishing off the shelves. It's happened to me so many times that I've adopted the "buy it when you see it" strategy when it's something that I'm likely to use/need. (That's why I've got such a large stash!)
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Post by caterina on Dec 31, 2021 16:39:31 GMT
These are interesting Caterina, I can really "see" something in the first one. They are both definitely the type of work that the viewer can keep going back to and find something they missed before. This is the type of abstract painting that I go for. I can't "see" anything in the type that look as if a 2 year old or an angry chimpanzee was the artist. I don't understand those at all. Did you use the sander with these? I am still tossing up whether to get myself one. I know what you mean about things vanishing off the shelves. It's happened to me so many times that I've adopted the "buy it when you see it" strategy when it's something that I'm likely to use/need. (That's why I've got such a large stash!) Thank you, Ann. I might follow your advice and buy any canvas I see around in the future :-) I used the sander, but not extensively: I did not want and need for the felt to become too firm, so I was afraid to use the sander too much, and I just did a couple more hand rollings. Anyway, I am finding the sander really handy, and I got one that came recommended for low noise level: it is truly quite quiet, to the point that my husband could not guess that I was using it from the other room, so that I am confident that the neighbours will not complain. I would not know about long use, in terms of vibration damage to my joints, because I am using it for very short spells. It's a Makita. I am kind of trying all the things with a bit of thickness, just to try the sander! Lol.
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Post by MTRuth on Dec 31, 2021 18:16:31 GMT
Very nice abstract landscapes.
I have not heard of a low noise sander. The one I have is so loud I can't stand to use it. Plus the vibration does bother my hands and wrists for sure. I haven't used the sander for a long time because of that.
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Post by caterina on Dec 31, 2021 22:48:54 GMT
Very nice abstract landscapes. I have not heard of a low noise sander. The one I have is so loud I can't stand to use it. Plus the vibration does bother my hands and wrists for sure. I haven't used the sander for a long time because of that. Thanks, Ruth. Well, I read all the posts I could find about using a sander, before dubiously putting one on my wish list for Santa, I was very divided about it myself. Quite a lot of felters are not using it, and I was worried that I would not like it. I tried a couple of sanders at my in-laws' last summer: they were a lot noisier, for sure, but the vibration was not too bad for my hand, as I used it only for short spells. I found that I could appreciate the speeding up of things in thick felt works, that I find boring and tend not to make because of the long time rubbing and rolling. I still love the rubbing and rolling in all the other, thinner works. I gather that the new models of certain brands can be a lot less noisy, I specifically looked for the lowest-noise ones. But I also read that the more the wear of the sander and the noisier it becomes, and at that point there is nothing but getting a new one, it seems. Lena Archibold of the Felting with Lena courses recommends the Makita of that model, she uses it for almost all of her felting, so I decided to give the Makita a try: I am pleased for now, although I wouldn't know if other brands and models are equally fine, and maybe less expensive. I believe Santa has found an offer on that, and anyway he was fine with the expense as he thinks that he will may need the sander himself one of these days, so..
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Post by Shepherdess on Jan 4, 2022 12:30:13 GMT
I don't think I have seen a low noise sander here. I have tried it and for me, it was the noise. I like to listen to audiobooks when I felt. I could see though that if I used it would irritate my tendonitis. Not sure how my arthritic thumbs would feel about it as they were not bad the last time I tried it. Nice abstracts. I am with Ann on this one, Jackson Pollocks are fun to do but, in the end, you just have paint splatters.
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Post by Ann @ frabjous fabrica on Jan 4, 2022 20:32:46 GMT
I don't think I have seen a low noise sander here. I have tried it and for me, it was the noise. I like to listen to audiobooks when I felt. I could see though that if I used it would irritate my tendonitis. Not sure how my arthritic thumbs would feel about it as they were not bad the last time I tried it. Nice abstracts. I am with Ann on this one, Jackson Pollocks are fun to do but, in the end, you just have paint splatters. What you need is a pair of ear defenders to wear over in-ear phones, then you can hear it over the noise of the sander. I started using the ear defenders so that I could listen to books while doing the hoovering, very useful. Of course if you don't use a player that you carry around on your body, with in-ear phones, that's not going to work.
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Post by caterina on Jan 5, 2022 0:28:05 GMT
I have to say that I use the sander for a few minutes at most, so that's probably why I do not feel it too much.
I sometimes listen to podcasts while felting, but I am not bothered by putting them aside for a couple of minutes while sanding, then resuming my listening where I left. I guess I would not want to have hours of sanding without relief, that would be way too boring, and the sander is heavy! But I found that just a few minutes of sanding gets me at the rolling stage "further on" than if were to do the rubbing without sander, in the case of thick felt, it kind of cuts a bit on the rolling part along with the rubbing part, if it makes sense. I enjoy the rubbing, but not so much if it takes me ages and I have a lot of fiber to make stick together...
My sander is around the same noise as my washing machine when it spins, and it is a pretty quiet washing machine, with an A+++ energy rating. It is still possible to hear people talking above the noise, and you can be in the same room as the sander for quite a bit before having enough, although it is noisy and I would not want to have an important conversation with it on. I guess I could go on listening to my podcast, setting the volume to high, I never tried yet: another thing to try, good.
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Post by Ann @ frabjous fabrica on Jan 5, 2022 7:59:33 GMT
I guess I could go on listening to my podcast, setting the volume to high, I never tried yet: another thing to try, good. Possibly not such a good idea if you forget to turn it down again, certainly not if you're using earphones. Prolonged listening at high volume is definitely not good for the hearing. I think the reason why I now have 2 hearing aids is because of loud live music. It's not surprising that musicians on stage these days wear headphones if not earplugs - you can actually feel the sound in your chest even when sitting in the back row of the auditorium. What with that, and high volume sound in cars these days, I think we are likely to have a high take-up of hearing aids in the next couple of generations!
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Post by caterina on Jan 5, 2022 11:12:19 GMT
I guess I could go on listening to my podcast, setting the volume to high, I never tried yet: another thing to try, good. Possibly not such a good idea if you forget to turn it down again, certainly not if you're using earphones. Prolonged listening at high volume is definitely not good for the hearing. I think the reason why I now have 2 hearing aids is because of loud live music. It's not surprising that musicians on stage these days wear headphones if not earplugs - you can actually feel the sound in your chest even when sitting in the back row of the auditorium. What with that, and high volume sound in cars these days, I think we are likely to have a high take-up of hearing aids in the next couple of generations! Well, yes, there is that. I will make sure to tone it down as soon as I shut my sander, then, and keep sander use to a minimum. I guess the only solution is proper earphones if you use it a lot, though, as you are suggesting.
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