breezy
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Post by breezy on Feb 13, 2018 14:03:27 GMT
Hello,
I've been laying out thin individual layers of roving in my wet felting process, but as I look to begin making thicker and thicker pieces this process has begun to appear tedious. For more background, I want to start making rugs with a thickness of around 3/4".
I've experimented with using a hairbrush to pull apart roving into messy, airy chunks and have had success making a tightly felted piece just by grouping those pulled apart chunks. The problem is that it still feels really slow- not much faster than laying out layers- and that making a large rug would take too long.
Does anyone have any processes or tools to suggest? I enjoy the meditative nature of felting but time is limited in my studio!
Thanks so much!
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Post by halay on Feb 13, 2018 16:12:32 GMT
I'm afraid there are no short cuts here. Laying wool takes most of the time in the felting process. If you are making a rug it would probably be easier if you work with fleece not rovings.
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Post by lyn on Feb 13, 2018 16:14:05 GMT
Hello Breezy! Have a look at the link at the end. To wet your appetite for the article, this is an extract: "Batting is fantastic for quick layouts. The batting can be spread out to your desired shape and size, and layers can be built up to reach your desired thickness." Fiona Duthie Link
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Post by Pandagirl on Feb 13, 2018 16:27:31 GMT
Drum carder to make batts. I’ve tried brushes but don’t skill or patience. :-). Purchasing batts can become expensive. They are nice for a quick layout, but sometimes colors and wool types are limited.
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Post by tracey on Feb 13, 2018 17:14:15 GMT
Great link Lyn, very interesting. Also a school day for me, I didn't know the laying out of the fibres was called shingling.
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breezy
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Post by breezy on Feb 13, 2018 17:59:56 GMT
Excellent read, thank you Lyn! And thanks everyone for your thoughts.
I have thought of using batts in the past but haven't considered it recently. The Textile Center here in Minneapolis/St. Paul has drum carders available for use though I haven't given it a try. Maybe that should be my next step!
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Post by MTRuth on Feb 13, 2018 18:39:37 GMT
Definitely try out the drum carder. I use batts quite a lot and it is definitely a faster layout. But you still have to make sure that your layers are even and you may need to add wool in places.
The drum carder is definitely faster than carding by hand but still takes a lot of time. I usually do my carding when I am watching TV to make that time feel more useful. Not sure there is a real shortcut for felting though, it's more of a "slow" craft/art.
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Post by lyn on Feb 13, 2018 22:05:17 GMT
The batting in Fiona's article has 'messed up' fibres, but when I make a batt on my drum carder the fibres are more or less 'parallel'.
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breezy
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Post by breezy on Feb 13, 2018 23:25:27 GMT
Also good to know!
Does anybody have an estimate on the amount of time it would take to drum card say a pound of roving? Or any other quantity would be helpful, too, and I can scale up the estimate.
Thanks much!
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Post by MTRuth on Feb 13, 2018 23:57:21 GMT
I have never timed myself but a pound of roving is quite a lot. It usually takes me at least 30 minutes or so for one batt which is nowhere near a pound. But I'm usually blending a variety of colors and other embellishing fiber. So maybe I am slow.
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Post by lyn on Feb 14, 2018 8:16:27 GMT
I've just looked at World of Wool - the batting on there is a little more expensive than buying 'tops', but you have to pay for convenience anywhere don't you.
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Post by Pandagirl on Feb 15, 2018 1:31:34 GMT
There are electric carders. I haven’t used one but they may be a bit faster as long as you don’t gets jams.
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Post by Shepherdess on Feb 15, 2018 14:20:55 GMT
Batts are the fastest for large and thick items. World of wool has them. I would check with mills for larger bats then you will make by hand or you need to find a bigger eclectic carder. They are hard to find. Really for home use you are looking for a used Pat Green triple card or Elsa card. I don't think anyone else made the medium sized equipment. If you use basic colours for most of the layout and only do the top layer or layers in dyed fibers you will save some money.
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Post by zed on Feb 17, 2018 13:43:27 GMT
I was thinking of mills too, like Ann. It would take longer to drum card a pound of roving than it would to lay it out. And like Lyn said, it wouldn't be a 'batt' if you start with roving, the fibres would be more aligned. I was trying to find the post when Ruth got batts from the mill, but couldn't find it, but did find Marilyn's post about a day at the mill: feltingandfiberstudio.com/2014/09/27/a-day-in-the-life-of-a-fiber-mill/You'll either save time or money taking shortcuts, so buying raw fibre and getting it processed probably works out more economical in the long run.
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Post by Pandagirl on Feb 18, 2018 2:12:24 GMT
My sister gave me a fleece and I had it washed at the Mill since I can’t do the lifting. For an extra $12 i could have had it made into roving. It only cost me $25 to have it washed. It would pay to check out local mills.
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