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Post by Pandagirl on May 1, 2014 15:05:21 GMT
The Saran Wrap works well when you want to use several colors on the piece. I've learned to make the wrap much bigger and fold over a couple of times, then roll it up. But I do like the Baggie method. Much cleaner!
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Post by MTRuth on May 1, 2014 19:37:51 GMT
Your latest dyeing results are wonderful. You could combine the wrap and baggies. Use the wrap first, roll it up and then put it in a bigger bag such as a gallon bag. Then it wouldn't leak but you could still get separation of fibers if needed.
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Post by Shepherdess on May 1, 2014 20:29:52 GMT
Looks like a nice group of supplies to be working with. are you enjoying the class?
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Post by Pandagirl on May 2, 2014 0:17:34 GMT
Yes Ann, I'm enjoying the class. Some techniques are challenging, but I'm learning a lot.
Ruth, I'll have to try using the plastic wrap in the baggies. Thanks.
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Post by zed on May 2, 2014 8:50:23 GMT
You got some great results there, Marilyn Work like the dye solution is too expensive to waste, then you won't put on more than what's needed so there won't be anything to leak
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Post by halay on May 2, 2014 10:31:09 GMT
Marylin, I hope you report about the class and show us some photos. It must be very exciting.
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Post by luvswool and dyestuff on May 2, 2014 13:37:01 GMT
Halay, I am taking the same class as Marilyn, and we are having a great time and learning many new techniques in surface design. However, we have been asked by Fiona NOT to share any information from the class. It has to do with artist's copyright laws.
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Post by halay on May 2, 2014 18:27:03 GMT
Pitty, but I understand.
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Post by Pandagirl on May 2, 2014 20:56:31 GMT
Fiona told me we can show you our work, but not her techniques. I did share one photo in one of the sections on fabric manipulation I did for class. There are several of us on the forum taking the class. Perhaps I'll put together a blog and feature our work from the class.
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Post by Shepherdess on May 3, 2014 2:00:15 GMT
Copyright is for written material not techniques or physical things. Sorry pet peeve of mine. Once you are using something you have learned outside the class you can show anyone you like. If you use a technique in what you are making you should just explain what you are doing as you would any other part of your work. That being said I don't think you should try to deliberately go against her wishes.
rant over
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Post by Pandagirl on May 3, 2014 3:20:05 GMT
Message received. :-). I agree Ann. she has said once we embrace the techniques and make them our own we can use them however we wish. This is how she makes her living so I can understand her protectiveness. However, like Ruth said, the experienced felters either know the techniques or can figure them out. There are plenty of people in the class who teach including pat Sparks. Enough said. ;-)
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Post by halay on May 3, 2014 4:08:33 GMT
So, this means we need to wait until you do something after the class has finished. Marilyn, it would be a good idea to you put together the works from the class and show us.
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Post by zed on May 3, 2014 10:09:29 GMT
I can see both sides really. I've seen many ideas I've developed myself get hijacked once I posted a picture on flickr, and the person getting praise hasn't mentioned once where they 'borrowed' the idea. I had someone ask me how I made sculptural vessels a while back, keen to share I explained, next thing she's charging £50 per person to take a class learning how to do it. I didn't think anything of sharing because, although I hadn't ever seen anyone use the same technique in the same way, I'd been able to work out that idea and a few others from something someone else had posted, which filled in the missing gaps (I did tell her). I've seen things from Beyond Nuno which I never saw before, but that's the whole point of sharing what you know. If some people go on to teach classes and make a fortune from it, there's nothing I can do. And I do always feel terrible about the texture felt, someone whose blog I followed demonstrated it, I tried it and gave links to credit them, but they had learned it in a class they paid for and felt bad for giving away someone else's idea, so ended up taking down their post. I don't know who they learned it from, otherwise I'd credit them. Halay, one of my contacts on flickr seems to be doing the course if you want an idea of what's being done? www.flickr.com/photos/scarfitup
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Post by Shepherdess on May 3, 2014 11:44:20 GMT
A long time ago I figured out the best way to keep a "trade secret" was to keep it secret. If you teach it, it is released into the world and is gone. I can figure out how to do all the things in Fions class but it would still be nice to take the class to see how she works.
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Post by Pandagirl on May 3, 2014 13:33:03 GMT
What is the saying? Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. I've taught classes and never felt anyone was stealing my ideas. After all, I learned from someone else. I may have adapted methods to suit my style and usually everyone else will, too. I respect Fiona's wish to not share techniques, but as you said Ann once you teach it's released into the world. What is great about the class is that you get to see others interpretations of the same class work and believe me, it varies a lot. Many students are blogging about the class.
Zed, scarfitup's work is very nice. I see it on class discussion page.
Here on the forum we are all about sharing, so I guess it's hard to imagine not wanting to share. :-)
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