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Post by MTRuth on Jun 6, 2014 23:25:44 GMT
Leonor - you really can mix all your own colors with just the primaries and black. It's not that hard and it's fun experimenting with different colors.
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Post by zed on Jun 7, 2014 8:16:13 GMT
I agree with Ruth. I bought shades, I think a turquoise and a teal, they were practically the same, there really is no point. If you want to mix colours and keep track, see if the chemists has any syringes and mix up by using the measurements on the side.
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Post by luvswool and dyestuff on Jun 7, 2014 12:24:39 GMT
I only purchased the 3 primary colors and mixed them myself. It is important to keep notes, and as Zed mentioned, use consistent measurements with syringes. Having said that, my first experiment with acid dyes--I just winged it!
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Post by Leonor (of Eleanor Shadow) on Jun 7, 2014 17:49:59 GMT
My partner told me that although indeed, in theory, all colours can be made by just using the primaries, some colours (like indigo) would be better bought, because some shades are a lot harder to get with just the three. Got me thinking... I mean, he must know what he's talking about, colours are his life (human figure painter and tattoo artist).
I want to be able to repeat what I make so I'd be taking careful notes, as much as I could, but would you still stick to just the primaries?
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Post by Leonor (of Eleanor Shadow) on Jun 7, 2014 18:05:56 GMT
PS - Great PDF file on the dyes, Zed!
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Post by MTRuth on Jun 7, 2014 19:36:31 GMT
Plus black. You can go with 6 primaries. One yellow that leans toward green, one that leans more toward orange. One blue that leans toward green and one that is more purple. And one red that leans towards purple and the other that is more orange. With those you can make almost any color. Painting and dyeing are not the same mixing techniques actually in regards to color. I have made some nice indigo hues with turquoise and black.
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Post by Pandagirl on Jun 7, 2014 20:24:35 GMT
I agree with Ruth, although I'm impatient sometimes and have ordered colors I use often and don't want to mess with like teal, moss green, raspberry, gold and silver and purple haze You can still mix and match but when you're going with something specific good notes or the exact color doesn't hurt.
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Post by Leonor (of Eleanor Shadow) on Jun 7, 2014 21:19:12 GMT
Plus black. You can go with 6 primaries. One yellow that leans toward green, one that leans more toward orange. One blue that leans toward green and one that is more purple. And one red that leans towards purple and the other that is more orange. With those you can make almost any color. Painting and dyeing are not the same mixing techniques actually in regards to color. I have made some nice indigo hues with turquoise and black. This sounds like great advise, Ruth! It's more or less what my partner said
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Post by zed on Jun 8, 2014 9:28:15 GMT
Marilyn makes a good point. Thinking about it more, if you're going to do a lot of dyeing anyway, it makes sense to buy the shades you want and will cut down the faffing around.
I don't think it'd be any harder to mix lots of shades with 3 primaries and black, but like with paints, the difficulty would be in using shades/mixing shades, you don't know which pigments are in there. A blue might look blue, but is there a hidden green/yellow in there that will turn muddy when you add red instead of the purple you want?
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Post by Shepherdess on Jun 8, 2014 13:34:18 GMT
Dyes are tricky sometimes because the colour of the powder is different then when you add water and different then the colour it will make on the wool or silk. I have the primaries and lots of other colours. I find pale colours like pink or beige hard to mix. unlike paint, pink is not light read and the white of the wool does not mix with the colour.
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Post by Pandagirl on Jun 8, 2014 14:16:58 GMT
Names are not always indicative of what the result is as I found in my blog post feltingandfiberstudio.wordpress.com/wp-admin/post.php?post=8256&action=editI've also been told that the hardness of the water may affect the end results. I don't know how true that is. Now if we we haven't thoroughly confused you, I'd go with colors you like along with a couple of primaries to play with. ;-)
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Post by Leonor (of Eleanor Shadow) on Jun 8, 2014 20:50:25 GMT
I've also been told that the hardness of the water may affect the end results. I don't know how true that is. Now if we we haven't thoroughly confused you, I'd go with colors you like along with a couple of primaries to play with. ;-) Hardness of water definitely affects the end result, Marilyn! One must know one's water PH level to expect certain results... That much I know from the books I've read
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Post by Shepherdess on Jun 8, 2014 21:42:10 GMT
I am hoping to try some rain water this summer. I have a rain barrel going. I have very hard water and it not only effects the dye it effects the feel of the wool. Eventually our water destroys the elastic in our cloths.
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Post by Pandagirl on Jun 8, 2014 22:00:46 GMT
Ann, that's interesting. Will you test the rainwater ph? I've tested our tap water and it's neutral which is good. We have friends who only use rainwater for their garden. I'll be curious to hear your results,
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Post by Shepherdess on Jun 9, 2014 0:13:51 GMT
I will need to get a kit but I would like to. the rain comes off a metal roof. it may effect the PH.
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