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Post by viltmaaraan on Mar 9, 2017 10:05:25 GMT
Sometimes objects needs a stiffener. we have talked about that before. remember; dipping in buttermilk, wallpaper paste, appret. but also the use of acryl medium mixed with water. I thought Ann asked Ruth when to use it, before drying or after? What is the best way to stiffen the brim of a hat (except hatstiffener  ? |
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Post by zed on Mar 9, 2017 11:32:42 GMT
'Elbow grease' |
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Post by viltmaaraan on Mar 9, 2017 14:07:34 GMT
'Elbow grease' Whaaahh  ...i hate that !  I am going to give it a try with the medium except i don't know the measurements, i will see...  |
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Post by MTRuth on Mar 9, 2017 17:15:30 GMT
I have found that adding the stiffener when it is still wet works the best. But I agree with the elbow grease suggestion from Zed.  |
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Post by wolgelukkig on Mar 9, 2017 17:41:10 GMT
I.m.h.o. the best way is wall paper paste mixed with more water than suscribed. No stains. It is easier to rub it in when the felt is wet but I have found out you can use it also when the felt is dry. You just have to rub a little harder.
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Post by felicity on Mar 9, 2017 21:06:27 GMT
I have never tried it myself, but was told that some felters use roller blind stiffener in spray for interior décor items. Something like this I believe: Stiffener |
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Post by Shana on Mar 9, 2017 21:44:57 GMT
I used a powdered shellac and alcohol mixture to stiffen (meant for millinery use) in a workshop. Hated the stuff, but it works for the application. The acrylic medium works well only if it never ever ever gets wet... and I mean ever! |
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Post by Shepherdess on Mar 10, 2017 3:16:00 GMT
I would have thought shellac would take up moisture and go white if there was high humidity or wetness. have you tried it is high humidity or rain?
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Post by halay on Mar 10, 2017 7:55:53 GMT
The acrylic medium works well only if it never ever ever gets wet... and I mean ever! Interesting, Shana. I have quite the opposite experience: once I was drying a felted piece on a ceramic plate and some of the stiffener remained on the surface of the plate. I could never remove it (even after scrubbing and washing the plate in a dishwasher). Another time I was drying felt on a towel and that part of the towel remained stiff as well. |
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Post by Shana on Mar 10, 2017 14:02:08 GMT
I would have thought shellac would take up moisture and go white if there was high humidity or wetness. have you tried it is high humidity or rain? No, I didn't get it wet. I applied it to small sculptural pieces. |
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Post by Shana on Mar 10, 2017 14:14:14 GMT
Interesting, Shana. I have quite the opposite experience: once I was drying a felted piece on a ceramic plate and some of the stiffener remained on the surface of the plate. I could never remove it (even after scrubbing and washing the plate in a dishwasher). Another time I was drying felt on a towel and that part of the towel remained stiff as well. Halay, yes it loves to stick to glass too! I'd used it on a delicate/thin-walled light shade which then collapsed after a few days. When I rinsed it, re-blocked and reapplied the stiffener, the thing went full flop.... right into the trash. |
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Post by halay on Mar 10, 2017 15:16:06 GMT
Sorry to hear that Shana. I think I'll need to test one of my pieces and see how it behaves after getting wet.
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Post by viltmaaraan on Mar 11, 2017 17:44:20 GMT
I used a powdered shellac and alcohol mixture to stiffen (meant for millinery use) in a workshop. Hated the stuff, but it works for the application. The acrylic medium works well only if it never ever ever gets wet... and I mean ever! May i ask : what is 'powdered shellac' ? |
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Post by viltmaaraan on Mar 11, 2017 17:50:25 GMT
I have never tried it myself, but was told that some felters use roller blind stiffener in spray for interior décor items. Something like this I believe: Stiffener When i am home, i am going to order this. |
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Post by Shana on Mar 11, 2017 19:39:37 GMT
I used a powdered shellac and alcohol mixture to stiffen (meant for millinery use) in a workshop. Hated the stuff, but it works for the application. The acrylic medium works well only if it never ever ever gets wet... and I mean ever! May i ask : what is 'powdered shellac' ? Here's a link to a millinery supply house. www.hatsupply.com/sizingstiffeners.htmThe powdered shellac (called Hydrolac B-5) is in the top picture. It's a powdered shellac resin which mixes with water. I was taught to mix it with denatured alcohol so it evaporates faster but like I said, I'm not a fan of the stuff. |
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